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		<title>By: MMOG Nation &#187; Melting Menagerie</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2007/11/29/up-against-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-26623</link>
		<dc:creator>MMOG Nation &#187; Melting Menagerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] much fun as our usual grindathon was, spurred on by comments Tipa made here on the site a long time ago (thanks Tipa!) we tried a few different things during our time in the whiteout as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kendricke</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2007/11/29/up-against-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-20086</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendricke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been fighting fairly hard on the subject of a lack of heroic questlines over on the official forums.

In the meantime, while in Lesser Faydark, make certain you run the Wu Encampment questlines before the Nybright quests.  The Nybright questlines will involve actions which actually lower your Wu faction.  The only way to raise Wu faction is through the Wu quests.  Lower the Wu faction too much (by running the Nybright quests first), and the questgivers won&#039;t speak to you to give you their quests.

So, run the Wu quests...then the Nybright quests.

I also recommend running the Fae Court questlines, as well as just some old fashioned brownie hunting in Northeast Lesser Fay (the named groups there have some pretty nice items that can drop for your level...but they might be a tad higher level than your group is right now).

In your upper 40&#039;s and lower 50&#039;s, you should start running Klak&#039;Anon.  There&#039;s several quests from Gnomeland that eventually lead there.  Also, you can look to Meldrath&#039;s Mines (he has an instance in the Minotaur Caves that&#039;s pretty fun) and the Court of Innovation (inside Klak&#039;Anon).  

Seeing as you&#039;re all in the upper 40&#039;s, I&#039;d recommend taking your group out to Solusek&#039;s Eye or Permafrost.  Completely bypass Lavastorm and Everfrost as areas you just have to move through to get to the dungeons.  Both dungeons have a decent number of quests (I particularly enjoyed several in Permafrost back in the day).  Between the two though, I daresay you&#039;ll enjoy Solusek&#039;s Eye far more.  

It can be a pain getting there the first time, but there&#039;s a teleporter right by the front door.  Once you get there the first time, you&#039;ll be able to teleport directly to the dungeon every subsequent outing.  

Solusek&#039;s Eye is probably one of the most stunning and involved dungeons in any MMO I&#039;ve played.  It&#039;s a HUGE dungeon, with suprising depth.  It was also revamped just prior to the release of Kingdom of Sky to include a number of questlines (one of which cumulates with the &quot;Defender of Drednever&quot; suffix title).  There&#039;s a ton of named, and a lot of the loot was pretty nice for it&#039;s level.

Of course, since we&#039;re talking about questing and old dungeons which were revamped, you simply have to take a jaunt over to the Feerrott to see the Temple of Cazic Thule.  Revamped about the middle of 2006, it&#039;s a great place to get some experience and gear.  There&#039;s quite a few questlines involved in the dungeon, and more than a couple of Heritage quests (Screaming Mace, for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been fighting fairly hard on the subject of a lack of heroic questlines over on the official forums.</p>
<p>In the meantime, while in Lesser Faydark, make certain you run the Wu Encampment questlines before the Nybright quests.  The Nybright questlines will involve actions which actually lower your Wu faction.  The only way to raise Wu faction is through the Wu quests.  Lower the Wu faction too much (by running the Nybright quests first), and the questgivers won&#8217;t speak to you to give you their quests.</p>
<p>So, run the Wu quests&#8230;then the Nybright quests.</p>
<p>I also recommend running the Fae Court questlines, as well as just some old fashioned brownie hunting in Northeast Lesser Fay (the named groups there have some pretty nice items that can drop for your level&#8230;but they might be a tad higher level than your group is right now).</p>
<p>In your upper 40&#8217;s and lower 50&#8217;s, you should start running Klak&#8217;Anon.  There&#8217;s several quests from Gnomeland that eventually lead there.  Also, you can look to Meldrath&#8217;s Mines (he has an instance in the Minotaur Caves that&#8217;s pretty fun) and the Court of Innovation (inside Klak&#8217;Anon).  </p>
<p>Seeing as you&#8217;re all in the upper 40&#8217;s, I&#8217;d recommend taking your group out to Solusek&#8217;s Eye or Permafrost.  Completely bypass Lavastorm and Everfrost as areas you just have to move through to get to the dungeons.  Both dungeons have a decent number of quests (I particularly enjoyed several in Permafrost back in the day).  Between the two though, I daresay you&#8217;ll enjoy Solusek&#8217;s Eye far more.  </p>
<p>It can be a pain getting there the first time, but there&#8217;s a teleporter right by the front door.  Once you get there the first time, you&#8217;ll be able to teleport directly to the dungeon every subsequent outing.  </p>
<p>Solusek&#8217;s Eye is probably one of the most stunning and involved dungeons in any MMO I&#8217;ve played.  It&#8217;s a HUGE dungeon, with suprising depth.  It was also revamped just prior to the release of Kingdom of Sky to include a number of questlines (one of which cumulates with the &#8220;Defender of Drednever&#8221; suffix title).  There&#8217;s a ton of named, and a lot of the loot was pretty nice for it&#8217;s level.</p>
<p>Of course, since we&#8217;re talking about questing and old dungeons which were revamped, you simply have to take a jaunt over to the Feerrott to see the Temple of Cazic Thule.  Revamped about the middle of 2006, it&#8217;s a great place to get some experience and gear.  There&#8217;s quite a few questlines involved in the dungeon, and more than a couple of Heritage quests (Screaming Mace, for example).</p>
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		<title>By: redrinn</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2007/11/29/up-against-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-20075</link>
		<dc:creator>redrinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen to Tipa. Heck I wish the devs would. RoK is the solo only expansion. Groups need not apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to Tipa. Heck I wish the devs would. RoK is the solo only expansion. Groups need not apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2007/11/29/up-against-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-20041</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so suprised to hear that you find this to be a slow time for leveling!  I&#039;m playing through EQ2 for the first time as a mostly-solo Conjuror and I was tempted to turn off combat xp in my 40s because I was outleveling content before I could experience half of what was available.

Klak-anon, eastern Feerott, Everfrost, Lavastorm and Rivervale are all places I didn&#039;t get a chance to fully explore before they turned grey to me.  Just last night (I&#039;m 65 now) I made my way into Solusek&#039;s Eye on a Deity quest and am now dying to get into a group so I can mentor through it - it&#039;s a breathtaking instance with an epic feel to it.

Anyway - if you are feeling stuck, one thing I&#039;ve found useful to direct me when I&#039;m not sure where to go next is to pick up city writs and head to that zone - every time I&#039;ve done that I&#039;ve found a bunch of new quests my level.  Also be sure to check out eq2.wikia.com or similar for Heritage Quests available to you - there are at least 4 in the 40s-50s with nice rewards and I *really* enjoy the long, complicated quest lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so suprised to hear that you find this to be a slow time for leveling!  I&#8217;m playing through EQ2 for the first time as a mostly-solo Conjuror and I was tempted to turn off combat xp in my 40s because I was outleveling content before I could experience half of what was available.</p>
<p>Klak-anon, eastern Feerott, Everfrost, Lavastorm and Rivervale are all places I didn&#8217;t get a chance to fully explore before they turned grey to me.  Just last night (I&#8217;m 65 now) I made my way into Solusek&#8217;s Eye on a Deity quest and am now dying to get into a group so I can mentor through it &#8211; it&#8217;s a breathtaking instance with an epic feel to it.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; if you are feeling stuck, one thing I&#8217;ve found useful to direct me when I&#8217;m not sure where to go next is to pick up city writs and head to that zone &#8211; every time I&#8217;ve done that I&#8217;ve found a bunch of new quests my level.  Also be sure to check out eq2.wikia.com or similar for Heritage Quests available to you &#8211; there are at least 4 in the 40s-50s with nice rewards and I *really* enjoy the long, complicated quest lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2007/11/29/up-against-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-19867</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, a lot of the Gnomeland Security quests end up in Klak&#039;anon eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, a lot of the Gnomeland Security quests end up in Klak&#8217;anon eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2007/11/29/up-against-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-19861</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;d think that, wouldn&#039;t you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;d think that, wouldn&#8217;t you.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2007/11/29/up-against-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-19857</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn. I&#039;d completely forgotten about Klak. That&#039;s a really good idea. 

Are there any quests associated with it I should know about?

And how the hell are there only TWO quest lines associated with a place like Karnor&#039;s? :P

I&#039;d think that&#039;d be a multi-level group quest-focused hub to no end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn. I&#8217;d completely forgotten about Klak. That&#8217;s a really good idea. </p>
<p>Are there any quests associated with it I should know about?</p>
<p>And how the hell are there only TWO quest lines associated with a place like Karnor&#8217;s? :P</p>
<p>I&#8217;d think that&#8217;d be a multi-level group quest-focused hub to no end.</p>
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