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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Play With the Trolls, Dear</title>
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		<title>By: Can We Escape From Official Forums? &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/03/24/dont-play-with-the-trolls-dear/comment-page-1/#comment-30074</link>
		<dc:creator>Can We Escape From Official Forums? &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] says ban with extreme prejudice, Michael says don&#8217;t ban me bro, and Sanya wants to make sure you&#8217;re qualified to be running a forum [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] says ban with extreme prejudice, Michael says don&#8217;t ban me bro, and Sanya wants to make sure you&#8217;re qualified to be running a forum [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tinman_au</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/03/24/dont-play-with-the-trolls-dear/comment-page-1/#comment-29960</link>
		<dc:creator>Tinman_au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People are *always* going to be dicks on the internet.&quot;

should really be: 

&quot;Anonymous People are *always* going to be dicks on the internet.&quot;

John Gabriel nailed it really...(NSFW maybe) http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People are *always* going to be dicks on the internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>should really be: </p>
<p>&#8220;Anonymous People are *always* going to be dicks on the internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>John Gabriel nailed it really&#8230;(NSFW maybe) <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19" rel="nofollow">http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/03/24/dont-play-with-the-trolls-dear/comment-page-1/#comment-29905</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and hear hear to Alan&#039;s comments. :) 

People are *always* going to be dicks on the internet. Banning them and taking away their accounts is just not a workable solution in the long run; the ultimate goal should be to allow the community to more-or-less self police, with a guiding hand from above.

Actually looking at Sanya&#039;s list again I think it trends more towards my interpretation of this issue than not, which is encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and hear hear to Alan&#8217;s comments. :) </p>
<p>People are *always* going to be dicks on the internet. Banning them and taking away their accounts is just not a workable solution in the long run; the ultimate goal should be to allow the community to more-or-less self police, with a guiding hand from above.</p>
<p>Actually looking at Sanya&#8217;s list again I think it trends more towards my interpretation of this issue than not, which is encouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/03/24/dont-play-with-the-trolls-dear/comment-page-1/#comment-29900</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside, if bitchslap was ever something that was used at all frequently it hasn&#039;t been in the three+ years I&#039;ve written with the site.

In fact, admins are restricted to the same +1 or -1 every other moderator is. We&#039;re just contributors too, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, if bitchslap was ever something that was used at all frequently it hasn&#8217;t been in the three+ years I&#8217;ve written with the site.</p>
<p>In fact, admins are restricted to the same +1 or -1 every other moderator is. We&#8217;re just contributors too, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan De Smet</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/03/24/dont-play-with-the-trolls-dear/comment-page-1/#comment-29893</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan De Smet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to not being a truck, the internet is not a store.

If you get thrown out of a store, it&#039;s hard to immediately sneak back.  Online I can create a new account and be back to trolling in minutes.  Furthermore, the point of a store is to sell people something, not to encourage open discussion.  The entire point of a forum is to encourage discussion.  If I throw the crazy guy going on about how I&#039;m a huge conspiracy to silence him out of the store, it&#039;s irrelevant to the general question of letting people shop.  If I throw the crazy guy out of my discussion group, it&#039;s easier to believe his claims that I don&#039;t really want open discussion.  Add in that many companies silently delete negative, but non-trolling threads from their forums and you have an audience more than ready to listen to the troll and not you.  This is the strength of a system like Slashdots.   First, generally speaking, the admins aren&#039;t rating people; it&#039;s your peers who decided you should be quieter.   And second, no one is silenced, just made a hair easier to ignore.  If you want to hear them, they&#039;re easy enough to listen to.  If there is any weakness, it&#039;s that Slashdot does have and occasionally use tools for smack someone down to -1; referred to occasionally, and possibly incorrectly, as &quot;bitchslap.pl&quot;.  Sure enough, this leads to trolls claiming they&#039;ve been bitchslapped and people listening...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to not being a truck, the internet is not a store.</p>
<p>If you get thrown out of a store, it&#8217;s hard to immediately sneak back.  Online I can create a new account and be back to trolling in minutes.  Furthermore, the point of a store is to sell people something, not to encourage open discussion.  The entire point of a forum is to encourage discussion.  If I throw the crazy guy going on about how I&#8217;m a huge conspiracy to silence him out of the store, it&#8217;s irrelevant to the general question of letting people shop.  If I throw the crazy guy out of my discussion group, it&#8217;s easier to believe his claims that I don&#8217;t really want open discussion.  Add in that many companies silently delete negative, but non-trolling threads from their forums and you have an audience more than ready to listen to the troll and not you.  This is the strength of a system like Slashdots.   First, generally speaking, the admins aren&#8217;t rating people; it&#8217;s your peers who decided you should be quieter.   And second, no one is silenced, just made a hair easier to ignore.  If you want to hear them, they&#8217;re easy enough to listen to.  If there is any weakness, it&#8217;s that Slashdot does have and occasionally use tools for smack someone down to -1; referred to occasionally, and possibly incorrectly, as &#8220;bitchslap.pl&#8221;.  Sure enough, this leads to trolls claiming they&#8217;ve been bitchslapped and people listening&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: darrenl</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/03/24/dont-play-with-the-trolls-dear/comment-page-1/#comment-29792</link>
		<dc:creator>darrenl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...my biggest question I guess is why do we accept troll behavior? Looks like the answer is, &quot;because that big cloud called the internet is there&quot;.

Michael, if you had a store and one of these trolls started acting up in it...what would you do? I&#039;m saying that online community business should treat these types of customers the same way as any other business would, i.e. refuse their business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;my biggest question I guess is why do we accept troll behavior? Looks like the answer is, &#8220;because that big cloud called the internet is there&#8221;.</p>
<p>Michael, if you had a store and one of these trolls started acting up in it&#8230;what would you do? I&#8217;m saying that online community business should treat these types of customers the same way as any other business would, i.e. refuse their business.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/03/24/dont-play-with-the-trolls-dear/comment-page-1/#comment-29743</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Slashdot&#039;s comment system is probably its greatest strength. The news Slashdot runs is usually available in lots of places. But the comments make the site, and the moderation system (and meta-moderation system) make comments work.

It could also work for huge forums like WoW and (presumably) WAR, but could something so complex ever appeal to game developers? Even Slashdot is still trying to tune it (and that new, Ajax-y comment system is AWFUL, so even they clearly aren&#039;t satisfied).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Slashdot&#8217;s comment system is probably its greatest strength. The news Slashdot runs is usually available in lots of places. But the comments make the site, and the moderation system (and meta-moderation system) make comments work.</p>
<p>It could also work for huge forums like WoW and (presumably) WAR, but could something so complex ever appeal to game developers? Even Slashdot is still trying to tune it (and that new, Ajax-y comment system is AWFUL, so even they clearly aren&#8217;t satisfied).</p>
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