Comments on: Responding to Julian http://www.mmognation.com/2008/06/02/responding-to-julian/ Wed, 25 May 2011 02:52:43 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: DM http://www.mmognation.com/2008/06/02/responding-to-julian/comment-page-1/#comment-73869 DM Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:59:47 +0000 http://www.mmognation.com/?p=1087#comment-73869 I find with Age of Conan that, when I'm starting a play session, I just enjoy playing the game. The goals are merely incidental. It's just fun to do. It is, of course, new, and that'll probably change, but it's got me thinking back to Everquest and how far we've come. I used to spend days camping spawns in EQ; now I get a tad frustrated if I have to wait over 3 minutes. I feel the pace sags when I rest for 15seconds for stam/hp; in EQ, you'd meditate for minutes and pay money to facilitate the process. I know WoW has these things, too, but with an active combat system like AoC, it actually feels like I'm playing a game instead of relying solely on the achievement/social motivators (raids, etc). I think that's "getting it." I find with Age of Conan that, when I’m starting a play session, I just enjoy playing the game. The goals are merely incidental. It’s just fun to do. It is, of course, new, and that’ll probably change, but it’s got me thinking back to Everquest and how far we’ve come. I used to spend days camping spawns in EQ; now I get a tad frustrated if I have to wait over 3 minutes. I feel the pace sags when I rest for 15seconds for stam/hp; in EQ, you’d meditate for minutes and pay money to facilitate the process. I know WoW has these things, too, but with an active combat system like AoC, it actually feels like I’m playing a game instead of relying solely on the achievement/social motivators (raids, etc). I think that’s “getting it.”

]]> By: Jeremy T http://www.mmognation.com/2008/06/02/responding-to-julian/comment-page-1/#comment-73723 Jeremy T Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:28:33 +0000 http://www.mmognation.com/?p=1087#comment-73723 Ah, I see your problem. You say there's nothing to in AoC besides PvP (which you describe derisively as "meaningless), and you claim that it's impossible to compete with the amount of raiding "content" in WoW (which *I* would describe as meaningless). With that attitude, it's no wonder you dislike the game! I think you'll find, though, that there are a lot of people who completely disagree with this sentiment. I, for one, am looking forward to siege PvP, and I think that the WoW style raid PvE is just as meaningless as you think large scale PvP is. I also think AoC's dramatically superior combat system is a crucial component that promises to make PvP suck a lot less. That's not to say that AoC is going to come near WoW subscription numbers, but I do believe your preferred gameplay style is tainting your opinion of the market as a whole. Not everybody wants to get together a bunch of buddies and rehash raid PvE for gear - there's plenty of room for diversity here, even though you may not "get" it. Ah, I see your problem. You say there’s nothing to in AoC besides PvP (which you describe derisively as “meaningless), and you claim that it’s impossible to compete with the amount of raiding “content” in WoW (which *I* would describe as meaningless). With that attitude, it’s no wonder you dislike the game!

I think you’ll find, though, that there are a lot of people who completely disagree with this sentiment. I, for one, am looking forward to siege PvP, and I think that the WoW style raid PvE is just as meaningless as you think large scale PvP is. I also think AoC’s dramatically superior combat system is a crucial component that promises to make PvP suck a lot less.

That’s not to say that AoC is going to come near WoW subscription numbers, but I do believe your preferred gameplay style is tainting your opinion of the market as a whole. Not everybody wants to get together a bunch of buddies and rehash raid PvE for gear – there’s plenty of room for diversity here, even though you may not “get” it.

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