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	<title>Comments on: Complexity and the Changing World (of Warcraft)</title>
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		<title>By: Channel Massive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episode 65 - Behold Excalibur!</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/10/24/complexity-and-the-changing-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-164535</link>
		<dc:creator>Channel Massive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episode 65 - Behold Excalibur!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael likey [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@wilhelm2451 : I totally agree.

I just cancelled WoW over this, probably for good.  It feels like a betrayal of trust on Blizzards part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@wilhelm2451 : I totally agree.</p>
<p>I just cancelled WoW over this, probably for good.  It feels like a betrayal of trust on Blizzards part.</p>
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		<title>By: wilhelm2451</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/10/24/complexity-and-the-changing-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-164317</link>
		<dc:creator>wilhelm2451</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I wrote something that made you infer that I was accusing you of that behavior, I apologize.  That was not my intent.  But I have seen a whole stream of comments from people along the lines of &quot;shut up and suck it up.&quot;

To have somebody like you start down the path really pushed a hot button.

I have to side somewhat with the PvE purist.  I play on a PvE server because I want to be in an environment where ass-hattery is somewhat controlled.  But Blizzard pulled the cork out of the ass-hat bottle and now a group capable of knocking down level 65 guardian mobs with ease is off one-shotting noobs in the starting area.

Honestly, I don&#039;t care when I&#039;m on as a level 70.  I can take care of myself.  But at level 5, when you cannot do anything but die.  That is bad and I don&#039;t know how Blizzard couldn&#039;t have spotted that possibility a mile away and put in some safeguard.  I can&#039;t imagine anybody who is responsible for driving new business being happy with a plan that allows people to cream new players without let or hindrance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I wrote something that made you infer that I was accusing you of that behavior, I apologize.  That was not my intent.  But I have seen a whole stream of comments from people along the lines of &#8220;shut up and suck it up.&#8221;</p>
<p>To have somebody like you start down the path really pushed a hot button.</p>
<p>I have to side somewhat with the PvE purist.  I play on a PvE server because I want to be in an environment where ass-hattery is somewhat controlled.  But Blizzard pulled the cork out of the ass-hat bottle and now a group capable of knocking down level 65 guardian mobs with ease is off one-shotting noobs in the starting area.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t care when I&#8217;m on as a level 70.  I can take care of myself.  But at level 5, when you cannot do anything but die.  That is bad and I don&#8217;t know how Blizzard couldn&#8217;t have spotted that possibility a mile away and put in some safeguard.  I can&#8217;t imagine anybody who is responsible for driving new business being happy with a plan that allows people to cream new players without let or hindrance.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/10/24/complexity-and-the-changing-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-164316</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry you had a bad time. I&#039;m not calling you a whiner, I&#039;m calling the hoity-toity PvE purists whiners.

I&#039;m a little offended at being lumped in with a bunch of griefers, actually. I hope you&#039;d guess given previous writing that that&#039;s not something I&#039;d ever get into. 

I was very specific in aiming for NPCs - dudes that respawn pretty darn quick after going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry you had a bad time. I&#8217;m not calling you a whiner, I&#8217;m calling the hoity-toity PvE purists whiners.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little offended at being lumped in with a bunch of griefers, actually. I hope you&#8217;d guess given previous writing that that&#8217;s not something I&#8217;d ever get into. </p>
<p>I was very specific in aiming for NPCs &#8211; dudes that respawn pretty darn quick after going away.</p>
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		<title>By: wilhelm2451</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/10/24/complexity-and-the-changing-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-164315</link>
		<dc:creator>wilhelm2451</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please? I finally got a friend of mine who is anti-MMO to try WoW this weekend.  We rolled night elves together as I figured that would be the least likely noob area to find zombie griefing.

But no, there was a group of high levels out there in zombie form killing all the low levels.  15 quick successive deaths later and I was being told how much the game sucks.

So I&#039;m happy you&#039;re having an evocative experience, but if you&#039;re calling people whiners who get the short end of the stick this badly, well, you&#039;re just being an ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please? I finally got a friend of mine who is anti-MMO to try WoW this weekend.  We rolled night elves together as I figured that would be the least likely noob area to find zombie griefing.</p>
<p>But no, there was a group of high levels out there in zombie form killing all the low levels.  15 quick successive deaths later and I was being told how much the game sucks.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m happy you&#8217;re having an evocative experience, but if you&#8217;re calling people whiners who get the short end of the stick this badly, well, you&#8217;re just being an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle H</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/10/24/complexity-and-the-changing-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-164311</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear for a hero healing class!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear for a hero healing class!</p>
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		<title>By: Ogrebears</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2008/10/24/complexity-and-the-changing-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-164308</link>
		<dc:creator>Ogrebears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reminds me of the eq2 plague way back in the day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reminds me of the eq2 plague way back in the day</p>
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