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	<title>Comments on: Dear Michael, Your Vimeo Account Has Been Removed</title>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
		<link>http://www.mmognation.com/2009/01/07/dear-michael-your-vimeo-account-has-been-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-165120</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve been following their asshattery for a while.
http://www.robotskirts.com/2008/07/27/vimeo-bans-gaming-videos/

When they introduced the pay option, I wondered if videogames would be added back in. I think only half their staff realizes they have customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve been following their asshattery for a while.<br />
<a href="http://www.robotskirts.com/2008/07/27/vimeo-bans-gaming-videos/" rel="nofollow">http://www.robotskirts.com/2008/07/27/vimeo-bans-gaming-videos/</a></p>
<p>When they introduced the pay option, I wondered if videogames would be added back in. I think only half their staff realizes they have customers.</p>
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		<title>By: PTD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember when they decided to excommunicate gaming videos.  It was a sad day for me, but not for the usual reasons.  Vimeo is one of the only &quot;video&quot; sites that I can get to at work!  :)

PTD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when they decided to excommunicate gaming videos.  It was a sad day for me, but not for the usual reasons.  Vimeo is one of the only &#8220;video&#8221; sites that I can get to at work!  :)</p>
<p>PTD</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

I take this point to humbly suggest you use the following, an except from the loving Mr. Skullhead, one of the site admins for Kingdom of Loathing, giving his thoughtful insights about those who were unhappy with their most recent promotion:

Arashmin, and those who share the sentiment below, fuck you. Fuck each and every one of you. Fuck you sleeping, fuck you waking up, fuck you standing, fuck you lying down. Fuck the horse you rode in on, the groom that brushed its mane, and the blacksmith that made its shoes. Fuck your mother, your father, any siblings, and any other living members of your family tree. Fuck you.

THAT sounds more like the Michael I know :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I take this point to humbly suggest you use the following, an except from the loving Mr. Skullhead, one of the site admins for Kingdom of Loathing, giving his thoughtful insights about those who were unhappy with their most recent promotion:</p>
<p>Arashmin, and those who share the sentiment below, fuck you. Fuck each and every one of you. Fuck you sleeping, fuck you waking up, fuck you standing, fuck you lying down. Fuck the horse you rode in on, the groom that brushed its mane, and the blacksmith that made its shoes. Fuck your mother, your father, any siblings, and any other living members of your family tree. Fuck you.</p>
<p>THAT sounds more like the Michael I know :)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan De Smet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan De Smet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My initial thought was that Vimeo wasn&#039;t rolling around in as much money as YouTube, so they needed to implement limits to stay profitable, or at least bleed money less quickly.   In such a situation, yeah, I might consider banning video game playing videos on the grounds that they have an amazingly small target audience.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vimeo.com/blog:140&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Then I found Vimeo&#039;s official statement&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webcitation.org/5dgBxfEzW&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;backup link&lt;/a&gt;).  Okay, they do note the resource limitations.  But what they say first is, &quot;The Vimeo staff does not feel that videos which are direct captures of video game play truly constitute &#039;creative expression&#039;.&quot;  Vimeo can get bent.  Sure, straight video of a game is pretty low creative expression.  But with adding commentary, or information on how to play, editing to highlight interesting moments, or having someone tag along in a MMOG solely to act as a cameraman is absolutely creative expression.  By their standard the nightly news frequently isn&#039;t &quot;creative expression.&quot;

Oddly, if they would have simply omitted the first point and said, &quot;We&#039;re poor, backlogged, and video game videos are a huge chunk of the problem.  Sorry, we need to ask you to leave for the good of the service as a whole,&quot; I wouldn&#039;t be so annoyed at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My initial thought was that Vimeo wasn&#8217;t rolling around in as much money as YouTube, so they needed to implement limits to stay profitable, or at least bleed money less quickly.   In such a situation, yeah, I might consider banning video game playing videos on the grounds that they have an amazingly small target audience.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/blog:140" rel="nofollow">Then I found Vimeo&#8217;s official statement</a> (<a href="http://www.webcitation.org/5dgBxfEzW" rel="nofollow">backup link</a>).  Okay, they do note the resource limitations.  But what they say first is, &#8220;The Vimeo staff does not feel that videos which are direct captures of video game play truly constitute &#8216;creative expression&#8217;.&#8221;  Vimeo can get bent.  Sure, straight video of a game is pretty low creative expression.  But with adding commentary, or information on how to play, editing to highlight interesting moments, or having someone tag along in a MMOG solely to act as a cameraman is absolutely creative expression.  By their standard the nightly news frequently isn&#8217;t &#8220;creative expression.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oddly, if they would have simply omitted the first point and said, &#8220;We&#8217;re poor, backlogged, and video game videos are a huge chunk of the problem.  Sorry, we need to ask you to leave for the good of the service as a whole,&#8221; I wouldn&#8217;t be so annoyed at them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And never mind that Vimeo clips are almost always not viewable by people outside of the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And never mind that Vimeo clips are almost always not viewable by people outside of the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee. Thanks for the good chat, all. I always forget that people actually read this thing until days like this. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee. Thanks for the good chat, all. I always forget that people actually read this thing until days like this. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would&#039;ve taken a middle route between politely miffed Michael and frothing Michael. While they&#039;re fully within their right to close your account for this reason, it&#039;s still a stupid reason. There&#039;s also nothing on the main site that&#039;d indicate there&#039;s some bias against video game movies: &quot;Vimeo is a thriving community of people who love to make and share video. From simple moments to masterpieces, Vimeo is the perfect home for you to upload, store and share all the video you create.&quot; Nothing about &quot;only home movies&quot; or &quot;budding art films&quot; or whatever. Nice of them to bury such in the TOS, and also nice of them to not give you a warning before closing your account.

I see they&#039;re partially based out of &#039;Portland&#039;, and given they&#039;re smug enough not to indicate which Portland I&#039;ll presume they means Oregon instead of Maine. As a transplant from the east coast, I can vouch for Portland&#039;s supersaturation of pretentious prats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would&#8217;ve taken a middle route between politely miffed Michael and frothing Michael. While they&#8217;re fully within their right to close your account for this reason, it&#8217;s still a stupid reason. There&#8217;s also nothing on the main site that&#8217;d indicate there&#8217;s some bias against video game movies: &#8220;Vimeo is a thriving community of people who love to make and share video. From simple moments to masterpieces, Vimeo is the perfect home for you to upload, store and share all the video you create.&#8221; Nothing about &#8220;only home movies&#8221; or &#8220;budding art films&#8221; or whatever. Nice of them to bury such in the TOS, and also nice of them to not give you a warning before closing your account.</p>
<p>I see they&#8217;re partially based out of &#8216;Portland&#8217;, and given they&#8217;re smug enough not to indicate which Portland I&#8217;ll presume they means Oregon instead of Maine. As a transplant from the east coast, I can vouch for Portland&#8217;s supersaturation of pretentious prats.</p>
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